wayne, chris is calling from texas. hi, chris. >> caller: hello, sir. >> bill: yes, your question. >> caller: it is not actually a question. many americans have no problem eating pigs and chickens raised in cages that can't move. they eat milk-fed veal that never moves but when it comes to horses, they're not treated as livestock. they're set at some different level. if you can't slaughter horses, they end up starving. you have blm horses on government land. they're not the romantic mustangs everyone believes they are. >> bill: i got your point. in the interest of time, i want to give wayne a chance to respond. >> chris is in muchson, texas, where the black beauty ranch, the humane society of the united states, we have the largest animal sanctuary in the united states. chris, go on by and see our folks. we have 700 -- we have wild horses, animals rescued from slaughter horses. the wild horse is a different issue. the bureau of land management which manages about 35,000 wild horses forbids the slaughter of those animals